{"id":6004,"date":"2015-03-06T11:19:09","date_gmt":"2015-03-06T16:19:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/busm\/?p=6004"},"modified":"2015-03-06T11:19:09","modified_gmt":"2015-03-06T16:19:09","slug":"untangling-the-connectome","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/2015\/03\/06\/untangling-the-connectome\/","title":{"rendered":"Untangling the Connectome"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"hed\">BUSM&#8217;s Narayanan \u201cBobby\u201d Kasthuri on how our wiring makes us human<\/h2>\n<div class=\"vid\">\n<div id=\"\" class=\"responsive-video \">\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"550\" height=\"310\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/buniverse\/interface\/embed\/embed.html?v=1XSUmf1YR\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"caption\"><em>In the video above, Bobby Kasthuri explains how mapping the way neurons connect could help us understand what makes us who we are. Video by Joe Chan.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Bobby Kasthuri needs a map. Not your everyday, get-me-to-Kenmore-Square kind of map. He\u2019s got something else in mind. What Kasthuri needs is a map of all the connections in the human brain\u2014kind of a wiring diagram for neurons. Kasthuri, an assistant professor in the department of anatomy and neurobiology at the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/\">Boston University School of Medicine<\/a>, thinks that this map\u2014the so-called \u201cconnectome\u201d\u2014could help explain how our brains develop from childhood and give deep insights into memory and consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s a problem: the data. The map of one mouse brain would consume about two exabytes\u2014that\u2019s two billion gigabytes\u2014of storage. (For comparison, the iPhone 6 comes with a mere 128GB.) With some creative help from a handful of high school students, Kasthuri has analyzed a sliver of mouse brain and created stunning images of neurons. The exquisitely detailed images hint at the power of big data, the complexity of the connectome, and some of the secrets that may lie waiting for us in the brain.<\/p>\n<p><em>BU Today<\/em>\u00a0talked to Kasthuri of mice and men, small worms and bold ideas, and how Big Oil may save neuroscience.<\/p>\n<div class=\"special-sidebar has-video show-video\">\n<div class=\"sidebar-head\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapper buniverse-2013\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapperInner\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"550\" height=\"310\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/buniverse\/interface\/embed\/embed.html?v=sJptl1YQ&amp;?loc=3&amp;autoplay=true\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The connectome could hold the secrets to how the brain works, but how will we map it? Kasthuri shows how electron microscopes and diamond edges help him to view detailed images of the brain. Video by Joe Chan<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3><em>BU Today:<\/em>\u00a0So, what is a connectome, exactly?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Kasthuri:<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s this idea that, for a brain, you know how every neuron connects to every other neuron.<\/p>\n<h3>Why would you want to know that?<\/h3>\n<p>If you look at a neuron of a human and a neuron of a mouse, they look essentially the same. We share 98 percent of our genome. So the strong hypothesis is that we have the same LEGO\u00ae blocks, but we build a huge palace with our LEGO blocks, and mice build more of a hut. And if that\u2019s true, it would imply that connections are deeply correlative and causative to things like our memories, our personalities, and our fears. The connectome would be the map of that.<\/p>\n<h3>So far, scientists have mapped the connectome of one organism\u2014a worm called\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Caenorhabditis_elegans\">C. elegans<\/a><\/em>?<\/h3>\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s a roundworm about a millimeter long, with exactly 302 neurons. And they have very simple behavior. I think they squirt forward, they squirt backwards. Squirt forward, squirt backwards. It took scientists about a decade to do a wiring diagram of\u00a0<em>C. elegans<\/em>, completely by hand.<\/p>\n<h3>So the worm has 302 neurons. How many neurons do people have?<\/h3>\n<p>People claim 100 trillion.<\/p>\n<h3>That seems extremely difficult. Where do you start?<\/h3>\n<p>We start with a big volume of an adult mouse brain, let\u2019s say a millimeter cubed.<\/p>\n<h3>That\u2019s it? I was thinking you\u2019d do half the brain.<\/h3>\n<p>I wish.<\/p>\n<div class=\"special-sidebar has-video show-video\">\n<div class=\"sidebar-head\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapper buniverse-2013\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapperInner\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"550\" height=\"310\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/buniverse\/interface\/embed\/embed.html?v=N3YSS1YU&amp;?loc=3&amp;autoplay=true\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Imaging all the components of even a tiny sliver of brain, as in this video, takes enormous computing power. Kasthuri estimates that completely mapping one mm cubed of brain tissue will require about two million gigabytes of data, more than exists in the entire Library of Congress. Video courtesy of Bobby Kasthuri<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3>So you take this little teeny-weeny part of the mouse brain, and what do you do with it?<\/h3>\n<p>You have to cut it in slices, take a picture of each slice, and then put the images back together on the computer. But here\u2019s the problem: a millimeter cubed, at the resolution we would like, is about two million gigabytes of data.<\/p>\n<h3>Can you compare that to something that people would understand?<\/h3>\n<p>So the whole human genome is about three to five gigabytes.<\/p>\n<h3>Oh. You\u2019re dead.<\/h3>\n<p>You\u2019re right But listen, when they sequenced the genome in the \u201990s, people were like, \u201cthree to five gigabytes? That\u2019s impossible.\u201d But they did it. Now I\u2019m talking about 200,000 times more, but the world is being pushed toward this, independent of what we do.<\/p>\n<h3>Exactly. Everybody needs somewhere to put their data. Maybe the Google guys will figure it out.<\/h3>\n<p>I think Google might figure it out. I\u2019ve heard that the people who work with the biggest data sets in the world are oil companies, because they make these tremendous models of where the oil is. And for them, finding the oil is worth the investment of supercomputers and huge data sets.<\/p>\n<h3>How Exxon Saved Neuroscience?<\/h3>\n<p>Right, exactly.<\/p>\n<h3>So once you\u2019ve sliced up this little bit of mouse brain, can you do anything with it?<\/h3>\n<p>It\u2019s a great question. I still haven\u2019t gotten to the hard part: analyzing the data. I like to use this Kennedy quote: \u201cWe choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.\u201d We went to the moon. Right? We went to the moon. Is analyzing this data that much harder than sending human beings to the moon and coming back?<\/p>\n<div class=\"special-sidebar has-video show-video\">\n<div class=\"sidebar-head\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapper buniverse-2013\">\n<div class=\"buvideoWrapperInner\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"550\" height=\"310\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/buniverse\/interface\/embed\/embed.html?v=26ID0R1YT&amp;?loc=3&amp;autoplay=true\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Thin slices of mouse brain are scanned with an electron microscope and stacked in order. Students recruited by Kasthuri trace the paths of individual neurons in different colors. The resulting images are used to create 3D models of neurons. Video courtesy of Bobby Kasthuri<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3>I don\u2019t know; maybe?<\/h3>\n<p>OK, that\u2019s fair. So now I have two million gigabytes of information. And now we get to the hard part, the really, truly hard part: humans are very good at following the same neuron from section to section to section, but computers are much worse than us. So we have to figure out a way to analyze two million gigabytes of data with some combination of computers and humans.<\/p>\n<p>So here\u2019s my current version of that: I teach neuroscience at one local high school,<a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/a\/masconomet.org\/mrsd\/\">Masconomet Regional High School<\/a>. I teach them what a neuron looks like, I teach them how to trace something, and they work on my data. So they\u2019re free, which is an advantage for me, and it\u2019s educational. And so far, they love it.<\/p>\n<h3>So you have the students trace neurons on sequential photographs, and with them helping, how much mouse brain have you been able to analyze?<\/h3>\n<p>Barely a fraction of the mouse brain. It\u2019s so small, it\u2019s embarrassing. We\u2019re going to get faster, I hope, if I have any chance of making a career out of this. But this is the new reality. And the question is, do we want to face reality or not?<\/p>\n<h3>And?<\/h3>\n<p>I have to. I can\u2019t turn back now.<\/p>\n<h3>I bet there are a lot of other things you could do.<\/h3>\n<p>No, no. I just couldn\u2019t do science, or at least neuroscience. I can\u2019t go back.<\/p>\n<h3>What if it turns out that the connectome doesn\u2019t matter? Maybe everything that makes us human just lies in the genes and how they are turned on and off.<\/h3>\n<p>Yes, it could be. My view is not that we have the right answer, but my view is we\u2019ve got to try. Let\u2019s just do it, man. I guarantee we\u2019ll find a surprise that\u2019s going to change how we think about brains.<\/p>\n<p><em>This <\/em>BU Today<em> story was written by Barbara Moran. She can be reached at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:bmoran@bu.edu\">bmoran@bu.edu<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>A version of this story was originally published on<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/research\/articles\/untangling-the-connectome\/\">BU Research<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BUSM&#8217;s Narayanan \u201cBobby\u201d Kasthuri on how our wiring makes us human In the video above, Bobby Kasthuri explains how mapping the way neurons connect could help us understand what makes us who we are. Video by Joe Chan. Bobby Kasthuri needs a map. Not your everyday, get-me-to-Kenmore-Square kind of map. 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