{"id":130254,"date":"2025-02-04T15:50:06","date_gmt":"2025-02-04T20:50:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/?post_type=bu-article&#038;p=130254"},"modified":"2025-06-11T10:50:02","modified_gmt":"2025-06-11T14:50:02","slug":"medical-students-experience-life-on-the-other-side-of-the-bed","status":"publish","type":"bu-article","link":"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/medicine\/articles\/2025\/medical-students-experience-life-on-the-other-side-of-the-bed\/","title":{"rendered":"Medical Students Experience Life on the Other Side of the Bed"},"content":{"rendered":"\t<div class=\"wp-block-editorial-leadin medicine-block-editorial-leadin is-style-default-alt has-media has-media-focus-center-middle\">\n\t\t<div class=\"container-lockup\">\n\n\t\t\t<div class=\"wp-block-leadin-media\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<img width=\"2559\" height=\"1745\" src=\"\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones.jpg\" class=\"\" alt=\"Second-year med student Jackson Wallner talks with retired Army drill sergeant Robert \u201cRick\u201d Jones.\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones.jpg 2559w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-636x434.jpg 636w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-1024x698.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-768x524.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-1536x1047.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-2048x1397.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-528x360.jpg 528w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-751x512.jpg 751w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-1056x720.jpg 1056w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-1502x1024.jpg 1502w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/allner-jones-1466x1000.jpg 1466w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2559px) 100vw, 2559px\" \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"wp-block-editorial-leadin-caption wp-prepress-component-caption\">Second-year med student Jackson Wallner talks with retired Army drill sergeant Robert \u201cRick\u201d Jones.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"container-words-outer\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"container-words-inner\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"wp-prepress-tag\">Campus News<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"head\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tMedical Students Experience Life on the Other Side of the Bed\u00a0\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h1>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"deck\">Innovative program helps medical students understand the vital collaboration and communication between physicians and nurses.<\/h4>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n<div class=\"wp-prepress-component-metabar medicine-prepress-layout-metabar\">\n\t<div class=\"wp-prepress-component-metabar-wrapper\">\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"wp-prepress-component-metabar-comments\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"#comments\" class=\"wp-prepress-component-comment-counter label has-no-comments\"><span class=\"wp-prepress-component-comment-counter-zero\"><span>0<\/span><\/span><\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"wp-prepress-component-metabar-credits\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"wp-prepress-component-metabar-share js-bu-prepress-share-tools\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"icon-twitter\"><span>Twitter<\/span><\/span>\n\t\t\t<span class=\"icon-facebook\"><span>Facebook<\/span><\/span>\n\t\t\t<span class=\"icon-action\"><\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">VA Vascular Access Nurse Kassidy Dias, RN, gently taps her forefinger on the blue vein in the arm of Vietnam War Army Veteran David Preston.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cFeel the bounce? That\u2019s perfect,\u201d Dias tells second-year medical student Juan Guerrero as he prepares to draw blood from Preston, a former sergeant in the 101st Airborne.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Guerrero is one of five second-year medical students from BU, along with a student from Harvard and another from Tulane, working on wards at the West Roxbury VA Medical Center, training in an innovative program known as The Other Side of the Bed. The six-week summer program, which began in 2009, has medical students undertaking many of the routine patient care tasks typically performed by the nursing staff.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOur goal is to increase physician\/nurse collaboration by helping medical students&nbsp;understand the role of nursing and the skills that nurses bring to healthcare,\u201d says Cecilia McVey, MHA, RN, FAAN, associate director of nursing and patient care services at VA Boston Healthcare System. She estimates that more than 200 medical students have participated over the past 15 years.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Throughout my first year [in medical school], I was afraid of having too much physical contact [with patients], too afraid of invading their privacy. It\u2019s a hard line to walk, in how to provide hands-on care while still respecting their privacy and sense of personhood<\/p><cite>Rachel Kim&nbsp;<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The program addresses what numerous studies have found: that an uneven power dynamic and issues around professional respect between doctors and nurses hinder collaboration, teamwork, and patient care. VA Boston Chief of Staff Michael Charness, MD, believes the increased use of technology has exacerbated the problem.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI think that as healthcare and medical education have evolved it\u2019s harder for the different members of the team to understand and appreciate the skills each profession brings. And I think patient care can suffer from insufficient collaboration and communication,\u201d says Charness.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignfull are-vertically-aligned-center\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignwide size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"890\" height=\"1024\" src=\"\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-890x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Rachel Kim is one of five second-year BU medical students participating in The Other Side of the Bed program on the wards at the West Roxbury VA Medical Center.\" class=\"wp-image-130262\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-890x1024.jpg 890w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-553x636.jpg 553w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-768x884.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-1335x1536.jpg 1335w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-1779x2048.jpg 1779w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-313x360.jpg 313w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-445x512.jpg 445w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-626x720.jpg 626w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/kim-quote-869x1000.jpg 869w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 890px) 100vw, 890px\" \/><figcaption>Rachel Kim is one of five second-year BU medical students participating in The Other Side of the Bed program on the wards at the West Roxbury VA Medical Center.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"697\" src=\"\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1024x697.jpg\" alt=\"Second-year med student Douglass Bryant, working under supervision of vascular access nurse Kassidy Dias, RN, flushes an IV line of Army veteran Robert McAllister.\" class=\"wp-image-130261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1024x697.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-636x433.jpg 636w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-768x523.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1536x1046.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-2048x1394.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-529x360.jpg 529w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-752x512.jpg 752w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1058x720.jpg 1058w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1504x1024.jpg 1504w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/bryant-dias-mcallister-1469x1000.jpg 1469w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Second-year med student Douglass Bryant, working under supervision of vascular access nurse Kassidy Dias, RN, flushes an IV line of Army veteran Robert McAllister.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"621\" src=\"\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-1024x621.jpg\" alt=\"Second-year med student Juan Guerrero discusses recovery from a severe hand injury with former Navy rescue swimmer Joey Gupin.\" class=\"wp-image-130263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-1024x621.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-636x385.jpg 636w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-768x465.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-1536x931.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-2048x1241.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-540x327.jpg 540w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-1080x655.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.bumc.bu.edu\/camed\/files\/2025\/02\/guerrero-gupin-1628x987.jpg 1628w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Second-year med student Juan Guerrero discusses recovery from a severe hand injury with former Navy rescue swimmer Joey Gupin.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI watch physicians as they are coming in for an hour, a half-hour, sometimes less, talking to patients, but there is a big difference being on the floor and being with patients the whole time,\u201d says second-year medical student Rachel Kim.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kim says nurses are continually asked to expand their responsibilities. On one of her first days on the ward, she watched a nurse juggle her patient load while taking time to accompany a veteran desperate for a walk, but who was a fall risk navigating with a walker while trailing an IV pole.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When a patient rapidly deteriorated and prognosis went from recovery to palliative care, Kim noticed nurses making careful observations of the changes. Although unconscious, the patient appeared to be experiencing pain. When the resident came on to the ward, Kim noted that he first turned to the nursing staff to ask what they had observed and what they thought should be done.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt was the first time I saw one of the physicians take the time to get the full story from the nurses,\u201d says Kim. \u201cI saw that, and I said \u2018okay, this is what I want to keep with me and emulate as I move forward in my training.\u2019\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-bu-buniverse medicine-block-bu-buniverse wp-block-global-buniverse\"><div class=\"wp-block-global-buniverse-wrapper\"><iframe src=\"\/\/www.bu.edu\/buniverse\/interface\/embed\/embed.html?v=26nENR0&amp;jsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Studies also found that increasing reliance on technology, even just entering patient information and observations into a laptop, estranged physicians from patients. Students in The Other Side of the Bed said it was the opportunity to work directly and intensively with patients that drew them to the program.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOne thing that really surprised me is how quickly you can make a valuable connection with a patient,\u201d says second-year med student Douglass Bryant. \u201cThey are more than just their medical problems. They matter to so many other people and that\u2019s all the more reason to do a great and respectful job.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Working alongside nursing assistants (NAs) and nurses for eight- and sometimes 12-hour shifts, the medical students perform the most basic, but vital, tasks: bathroom assists, help with feeding and testing, and responding to call lights. Students shadow and learn skills from various teams, including vascular access, EKG, and respiratory therapy. There are weekly lunchtime lectures by a physician or researcher from the VA or BU.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like most of the students, Guerrero was drawn to the intensive hands-on care experience, but found the reality of that work challenging.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI thought I knew what I was getting into, but this was a lot more difficult; changing a patient for the first time, understanding how to move around a catheter, dealing with someone who feels really betrayed by the system and not knowing how to get through to them,\u201d he says.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes, it\u2019s the small details of care&nbsp;that make patients\u2019 lives in the hospital more bearable. Glucose testing is a daily ritual on many wards, and it involves pricking the patient\u2019s finger with a needle to raise a drop of blood. No painkiller is used for this test and Kim found herself massaging patients\u2019 hands to warm them and get the blood flowing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThroughout my first year [in medical school], I was afraid of having too much physical contact [with patients], too afraid of invading their privacy. It\u2019s a hard line to walk, in how to provide hands-on care while still respecting their privacy and sense of personhood,\u201d says Kim. \u201cI learned a lot from [nurses] about how to do these really intimate tasks with dignity.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Success is measured in achievements most people take for granted and patients provide life lessons that are humbling to students accustomed to accolades and success.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When a patient started sharing his ignored&nbsp;requests, Guerrero jumped in to express his sympathy, only to be rebuffed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHe was very clear that he just wanted to be listened to. He didn\u2019t want to be fixed; he wanted me to bear witness to his suffering,\u201d says Guerrero.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second-year medical student Jackson Wallner thought the most underrated aspect of the program was the opportunity to talk with patients and not feel rushed to move on to something else, a luxury he expects they won\u2019t have as a physician. It\u2019s why he knew that a shave was important to retired Army drill sergeant Robert \u201cRick\u201d James. It\u2019s a remedy that won\u2019t be found in a medical textbook or that he\u2019ll be expected to do on his future clinical rotations and residency, but Wallner grabbed shaving gear and fulfilled James\u2019s request.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"is-style-end-of-article\">\u201cHe\u2019s going to make a good doctor. 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